Do what they need to do to get what they want. Great desire for privacy, more Five-like, less feeling than other Eight subtypes. Survivalists who secure a personal bunker against invasion; more contained, less visible as an Eight. The fear of deprivation fosters preoccupation with comfort, knowing where things are.At best maintains order/security, makes the rules, does what's necessary
At worst Machiavellian, anti-social, unfeeling
Acts out passion of lust by possessive attitude toward intimates and friends. More emotional, dramatic. The will to take hold of the other to do what the Eight wants, a passion for possession and surrender. Full involvement, wants to know everything, often takes charge of another's life. Lusty in love and commanding in business. Relentless competitors, more angry, more likely to humiliate; can be tyrannical, even sadistic.At best rewards loyalty, promotes stability, honesty, predictability in family/organization
At worst wants to control everything, angry, insulting, even tyrannical (Attila the Hun)
Friendship without judgment; harder to recognize as Eight because very friendly and not apparently angry. Lets out feelings within a closed circle. Accompliceship or survival through alliance. Good times are magnified by good friends who can hold their own and assert themselves honorably. Seductiveness makes it possible to be an Eight in the world -- they can go full out because they've tested the other's limits.At best friendly, establishes group cohesion and protection, leads the "charge," protective, fun to be around
At worst overwhelming to others (out of selfishness, excessiveness, gusto)
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Peter O'Hanrahan: the subtypes "show how the ruling emotion of our type is expressed through our instinctual behavior." The above descriptions also draw from Helen Palmer's The Enneagram in Love & Work and workshops with Dr. Claudio Naranjo.